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You would think that if chapter masters and captains can get jump packs that the fluffy themed squads that go with them would be able to take the same. I definitely can't argue that their tactics are better than White Scars who probably have the strongest , but I like it for what it does and what I think it was intended to do, which is give just a little different flavor. The trap with chapter tactics, particularly this one is picking an army designed to maximize the chapter tactic; that is, fielding assault marines and a bunch of non-bulky infantry units to try to use the special rules as much as possible.
If you're going full out competitive you obviously wouldn't go with Raven Guard, but I think a themed army would be viable and not get stomped every game. That is more or less what I said in the last paragraph, and many of the issues also stem directly from the rules of assault marines themselves totally separate from chapter tactics.
You can always bias things heavily towards assault marines by loading the table with impassable terrain, but I don't typically see that much used. Been behind on my reading of the SM codex. Seems rather crappy to have bikes be troops for White Scars but not for jump units to be troops for Raven Guard.
Yeah they would be pricy. That would be a decision made by the player. Thursday, September 19, Raven Guard. Specializing in covert warfare, stealth and speed, along with relying on their scout company more than other chapters; the problem comes in how do they portray this on the field? In addition, on the first game turn, models in this detachment have the Stealth special rule. Note that units that include models with the Bulky or Very Bulky special rules do not benefit from either rule.
Winged Deliverance: Jump Infantry models in this detachment may use their jump packs in both the movement and Assault phases of the same turn. Furthermore, they must re-roll failed To Wound rolls caused by their Hammer of Wrath hits. So, if you are going for a Jump Infantry themed list to use the Raven Guard Chapter Tactics then that is the first strike against them.
Assault marines are not a troop option is the second strike against taking many of them. Assault marines cannot get into assault without first going through an opponent's shooting phase, they don't have Hit and Run, and melee weapons that make them good at assault price them well over terminator costs is the last strike against them. This doesn't mean you can't take assault marines in an army, but it does usually mean that you don't want to take many of them which virtually negates the bonus rule of Chapter Tactics for Raven Guard.
All this is coming from someone who likes the fluff and models of Jump Pack Infantry much better than Bikes, but finds the rules of Bikes quite a bit better. Some people say to focus on what they do get, so that is stealth and scout for those listed units without having to buy Kor'sarro Khan. Both of these rules operate under the condition that if a single model in the unit has the rule then it gives it to the whole unit. Your best bets for these are the Librarian and the Techmarine, but again most of this is all predicated on trying to spend the least on the HQ slot and trying to get an advantage for yourself.
You are still spending too many points to really make this work though typically. I can't think of something that makes spending those points for scout and stealth stealth only first turn useful over just taking more of those units you would use it for. Another useful point is that scout and stealth transfer to the Thunderfire cannon since the Techmarine Gunner has the stealth and scout special rules when he has Raven Guard Chapter Tactics.
You could also transfer these to Terminators, Centurions, etc. Learned from using Dominions from Sister of Battle, you can scout your various units forward for an alpha strike shooting attack. This is fairly effective especially with meltaguns and flamers, but you do leave yourself exposed to enemy fire almost always afterwards. If your entire army is trying this you are also going to have issues with not having room to put them in good places. This build is also able to trim out expensive HQs which is good for games at points, but I don't know that I can say much else for it.
It will be very interesting to see what is in the White Scar Supplement and then the Raven Guard one after that. Sorry to be kind of a downer here on Raven Guard, but these are the rules that they were given. Most sites I have read agree that Raven Guard didn't get very good rules. If I ran Raven Guard I would mostly just play against friends and would use Shadow Captain Korvydae from Forge World to make assault marines troops and just go mostly fluffy and not worry so much about how powerful the build is.
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Alan Bligh of Forge World writes:. A notably grim and resolute Chapter of the 1st Founding of the Space Marines, the Raven Guard are masters of guerrilla tactics, surprise assaults, sowing terror, and the execution of the brutal and overwhelming killing blow. Their black-clad Space Marines strike fear into the hearts of the enemies of humanity, while their war machines are adorned with symbols of death and inescapable fate. A Space Marine Captain equipped with a jump pack and a Thunderhammer, Korydae is a fearsome opponent in combat, exemplifying his Chapter's mastery of hit-and-run tactics. This set contains highly detailed Raven Guard Mark VI 'Corvus'-pattern armor helmets, torsos, shoulder plates, and backpacks for use in conjunction with the Games Workshop Space Marine plastic infantry kits. The set contains enough parts to make five marines in Mark VI armour in combination with plastics, including a Veteran Sergeant, as well as five alternate pattern Sternguard bolters.
You would think that if chapter masters and captains can get jump packs that the fluffy themed squads that go with them would be able to take the same. I definitely can't argue that their tactics are better than White Scars who probably have the strongest , but I like it for what it does and what I think it was intended to do, which is give just a little different flavor. The trap with chapter tactics, particularly this one is picking an army designed to maximize the chapter tactic; that is, fielding assault marines and a bunch of non-bulky infantry units to try to use the special rules as much as possible. If you're going full out competitive you obviously wouldn't go with Raven Guard, but I think a themed army would be viable and not get stomped every game. That is more or less what I said in the last paragraph, and many of the issues also stem directly from the rules of assault marines themselves totally separate from chapter tactics.
A fucking badass that wears the lightning claws once owned by Corvus Corax himself, he also has a supremely epic Beakie helmet to round out his old-school style. He's a sentimental old sod; when the rest of the company pushes off to deliver righteous asskicking on other foul xenos, Kayvaan prefers to stay behind and spend his time rescuing pockets of surviving civilians and soldiers, or assist the local Imperial forces in killing off any left-over resistance. Judging by his interactions with Kor'sarro Khan, he's even willing to look past the Ravens' millennia-spanning rivalry with the White Scars. Back in 4th Edition, he even had a rule to lead a unique custom unit called Shrike's Wing, which were lightning-claw-wielding Veteran Assault Marines that Shrike personally trained. Pity they aren't available anymore, though you can take Vanguards for the Shadow Captain and call them Shrike's Wing.